User talk:Class91
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Class91, welcome to Train Spotting World
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Good to see you
And great work you are doing importing stuff, especially with the construction template on it. Our m,antra is "simplify, simplify, simplify" when working with an procedural thing. And it's really hard to simplfy things!
We want the community we build, if you follow me. A WP clone would be a mistake, but they make a great "jump off point". Lucklit we may be as POV as we wish (until the community changes that, naturally!)
Tim Trent Talk to me 18:01, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. I won't be here very often though. Only on public holidays and possibly weekends. Class91 18:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Duplicate image resolved
Image:APT.jpg, which you uploaded, was a duplicate of Image:Apt 370004 - euston - 13-02-1980.jpg. I've substituted as needed and deleted the duplicate. Since a lot of the images and content here is still a copy of WP materials, you might find that an image you want to upload from there is already here under the same filename. Slambo (Speak) 04:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks.Class91 09:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Welcome!
Sorry for the delay in this, I've been very busy!
Thanks for getting stuck in, We like that! :-D!
If you have any qs, please ask me or any other sysop. Please join some Workforces aswell if you're interested - i've noticed you've added some stuff at UKR.
Thanks,
BG7 11:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
dollar strings
I do need to make sure that what you have seen as a typo truly does cause an error. Please can you explain what you see in MediaWiki:Whitelistedittext that appears to you to be a typo, and under what circumstances you see it?
Have you tried this in the correct mode by being logged out and trying to edit a non protected page? If so what do you see that is incorrect?
Please note that reading the page "as an article" displays the dollar string, not the value it takes when invoked.
Tim Trent Talk to me 00:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Policy
Hi. I noted you have re-added "We should not introduce user classes or any type of bureaucracy." into the Policy sandbox. I still have issues with this text, but mainly because I do not understand what you are trying to say. Could you elaborate, please, so we can tweak the wording appropriately? Thanks
EdJogg 13:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Can you tell me what the issue you have is. I just want to see if you're interpreting it in the way I mean it. Class91 17:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- OK, what is a 'user class'? Are we saying we are not going to provide further education for our users?
- 'any type of bureaucracy' is a very sweeping statement. This definition shows five different meanings, two of which could be implying organisational structure (and hence we could not possibly avoid 'any type of bureaucracy', since that would imply anarchy!) whereas I think you are actually suggesting the avoiding of meaning 3: "An administrative system in which the need or inclination to follow rigid or complex procedures impedes effective action". So, if that's your meaning, we should state it in as many words, especially as that will mean I don't have to cut-and-paste "bureaucracy" again (as I cannot spell it!).
- EdJogg 18:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- My comments on the matter are, even though i have no idea how to word it, is this:
- "we are trying to avoid the heavy bureaucracy that is experienced at some sites, and therefore there is just 1 class. 'What about sysops?' you say? Well, sysops are simply here to ensure we have a friendly community and to perform deletion and protection tasks. Admins aren't above the rest of us. Their job is a task, not a privelege. link to Trains:Adminiship for more info!"
- So what do we think?
- BG7 18:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- I see your point. Things like this just worry me - [1], [2], wp:WP:ARBCOM, wp:WP:MEDCOM. No need for politics on a wiki. We have enough of that in our daily lives offline. Were a community building a fan site for rail fans, were not a political experiment, a cult, a formal organisation, a recreation of the offline world etc. Basically Im trying to say we're not what wikipedia some how ended up doing to an extent. In other words, keep it simple. Class91 19:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Have a look at the latest version of User:Dp67/Sandboxes/Policy. I went there to reword the disputed sentence according to the accepted meanings above, but 'simplifying' got the better of me, and most of it has been heavilly edited (with the exception of the Lead and the Copyright bit).
- However, despite my best endeavours, the page still looks like it is the result of a collision between two others. This page should provide an overview of all the policies, linking to individual sub-pages providing the detail -- for example, there is obviously one needed for copyright, and, perhaps, a second for Free Use images.
